The war will not end tomorrow: what is missing in "Victory Plan" and whether Ukraine will join NATO before the end of the war
It contains five points that relate: according to the adviser to the head of the Presidential Office Mikhail Podolyak, Ukraine needs two components - true effective sanctions and long -range weapons. Focus learned that Ukrainian servicemen think about the "Victory Plan" and whether they consider it real.
Many Ukrainians may seem that the "Victory Plan" is unrealistic or failure, but at the beginning of a full-scale invasion of the Russian Federation Ukrainians also seemed unrealistic, but now we have it, the lieutenant of the 47th OMB Anastasia Blyshchyk has said. "And we use this on the battlefield. It is a huge, in fact, work was done, as well as representatives of the Armed Forces and the current of our authorities.
It is clear that this" Victory Plan "includes what we will have to fight even further. I am glad, I am glad. What the President of Ukraine understands that we will continue to fight with the Russians, "Focus Blyshchyk said. She noted that many people expected that the Victory Plan would contain some points that the war would end tomorrow. But it is good that Ukrainians do not enjoy themselves with illusions, as it was before and at the beginning of a full -scale invasion.
"When the Rooster War began, we also underestimated the enemy by drawing the image of Chnony, which steals the toilet. However, our enemy is strong, our enemy is a strong army that has a bunch of equipment, weapons. And most importantly, they have a huge human resource How they use, and what they are not sorry for them. , she would share her across the Dnieper, "the lieutenant said.
Blychik believes that it is good that Zelensky understands realities and requires what will facilitate the work of servicemen. It is about the help of allies, permission to beat on the territory of the Russian Federation. She is sorry, like all Ukrainians, that the war will not end tomorrow, but you need to prepare for protracted fighting.
The Major of the Armed Forces, Deputy Commander of the 3rd OSHBS Maxim Zhorin said that no plan was abolished by the need to fight, which everyone needs to be aware. "And then after these news again, everyone will just wait for a victory. You can discuss anything - without putting unnecessary hopes and putting on the head of the dream" soon everything will be like before, "Maxim Zhorin wrote. According to him, to live. With hopes, it is normal. All the forces and fighting.
Although against such an enemy, without exaggeration, it is already a victory, "said the fighter. When asked if there is a chance that Ukraine will join NATO before the end of the war, Anastasia Blyshchyk reported that it was necessary for partners to take" their eggs in their hands "and The decision was made, not Putin. Former military serviceman, former people's deputy Igor Lutsenko believes that the issue is over.
If we talk about the next one and a half years, then I think that it is almost zero (the chances of entering NATO - ed. ) " - said focus Igor Lutsenko. In his opinion, Ukraine can enter NATO when the Alliance changes internal position in the Alliance . , then so. and significantly less likely if Donald Trump, "says focus Nayem. " Victory Plan "contains a point to move the war to the Russian Federation to begin to understand that its citizens are starting that it is and hatred towards the Kremlin.
He does not think that Ukrainian blows around the enemy will help stop the war. "I do not think that the Russians will be gathered tomorrow and start going to some stocks. They will remain silent, they will tolerate it. However, it is clear that we will be easier for us. Because we need to beat their warehouses. We need to be all that all we need "Shakhda", rockets are not flying on us. , - she said.
She believes that it is difficult on the front now because Ukraine is experiencing a projectile voice, and it is extended on a constant basis. In particular, there was no such moment that the military could scatter the shells like Russians so that they would sit in their trenches and could not raise their heads. That is, we are constantly missing, while the occupants are not, they have everything. Russia has a powerful production of ammunition, rockets.
Instead, Ukraine needs to make sure that the Russians cannot use it and find themselves in a situation where they have nothing to fight. Lutsenko is also convinced that this is sufficiently low, while the strikes in the Russian Federation are rather radicalized and united the people around their leader.
"These blows should be, but their purpose of transferring war to the enemy's territory should not be convinced of his people in something that needs to be dismissed by Putin, or else to do something, but to simply deprive the necessary resources of Russia for war" He said. According to Lutsenko, the Russians will not turn against the Kremlin.
There may be processes in the country, but they will not be directly related to the fact that Ukraine will transfer the war to the territory of the Russian Federation. "There the people are passive enough, there is also no powerful guerrilla war against us. And also other Russians are indifferent, they will live under someone pleasing. If they do something, except for Putin, because they are us They do not like, "the military explained. Mass Nayem does not believe the subjectivity of the Russians.
As practice shows, they think about their political top only when they become "even more painful. " "It seems to me that massive blows in most cities of Russia may give a hint of the fact that they (Russians, ed. ) Will start moving. That is, do I believe that it will stop the war? Well, hardly," he said . The Victory Plan says that it is important to conduct joint protective operations with European neighbors to beat drones in the Ukrainian sky.
According to Igor Lutsenko, Western partners need to train with Ukrainians to counteract the drones. That is, to test new antitrone struggle systems of all kinds. The main training of staff is to get used to the fact that there will be a drone war now. Nayem believes that it is a statement that Turkey will give ships that will come to the Ukrainian shores and knock down Russian drones. However, he does not think it will be the only air defense.
"Perhaps if the only air defense, partners should give their people. If they give their people, they actually come into the war," he explained. Igor Lutsenko is convinced that the prospect of "Victory Plan" is that he will talk about him for a while, but then they will stop. Ukraine must constantly signal. "One type of signal is the word" plan ", a document called" plan ". Next, you may need to come up with something.
The main thing is not to forget about us, that we are all the time on all the possible hearing on all possible channels," Said the fighter. According to him, it is necessary for victory that Ukraine should be kept constantly on hearing. But Western countries are very cool about Ukrainian proposals. "We constantly have to sprinkle this rock gradually, and we have successes. We see that we were once given nothing but Javelin, and now there is F- 16th, etc. Therefore, we must continue to stop there.
And, of course, the "plan" helps it, "he explained. Nai noted that there are no most important things in the Victory Plan. In particular, there is nothing that Ukraine will strengthen the military, demobilizing them. There is also no word on how to create the unity of society again. "We are so disconnected now that this is the greatest threat. Nothing is said about how to satisfy a very strong demand for justice," said Masi Nayem.
Anastasia Blyshchyk believes that partners have no choice disagree with Zelensky's plan. "If they do not agree, then they have to understand that not only Ukraine lost, they lost all. We are a country that never fought in life, we have never had a powerful production They disbanded the army, gave the nucleus, and we had hope that we would help us, "the military said. It is impossible to allow that in the political world it is clear that Putin is a winner.
She thinks that partners are well aware of it, and therefore continue to help. Of course, according to Blyshchik, everything will depend on the election in the US. "I hope that support will still grow up and be as much as possible. But we can't only count on partners. We have something to do something ourselves - the production To ask for social networks will not open any meeting.
The former People's Deputy Lutsenko stated that if the partners do not 100% agree with the Plan, then they would still continue their help. There is always some factor that allows you to receive help. The serviceman Nayem stressed that Ukraine is losing war if partners stop assistance. "If the partners do not help, we lose immediately because it is weapons, funding," he added.
We will remind, on October 16 the adviser to the head of the office of the President Mikhail Podolyak stated that the "Victory Plan", which presented Zelensky, does not provide for the release of all occupied territories in the military. According to him, it is about creating conditions where it is too high for the Russian Federation to continue to stay in Ukraine. On October 17, the media reported that the key element of the Victory Plan is the official invitation of Ukraine to NATO.