"Simferopol and Yalta are hunted." As the guerrillas are kept in fear and tension of the occupiers - interview with the coordinator of the yellow tape
Video of the Radio NV Day on anonymity spoke with one of the coordinators of the yellow ribbon initiative. In an interview, he told how to keep the invaders in constant tension and fear. - How did the movement of the yellow ribbon occur? How did he initially develop, he coordinated with each other, given that all this should not be publicly, secretly for security reasons? - We started working after February 24. We are all aynyshniki, you can say IT volunteers.
[First] created a small, local resource for coordination of departure of displaced persons from the war zone. Then they started working just together, grouped. As soon as the first information reports of the referendum and the formation of the so -called "Kherson People's Republic" began to go, we created the initiative, the movement of the yellow ribbon. The first rally in Kherson was organized on April 27 for about 500 people, which caused very wide resonance.
And, in fact, on April 27 it is the point of reference, the beginning of our activity, as an initiative yellow ribbon. - How did you choose the name yellow ribbon? I understand that is a direct connection with the yellow-blue flag. How did you decide that this would become a symbol of civic resistance? - You are right, it is a symbol of our flag. In principle, there is no such super-symbolism.
We just took one of the colors of our flag and thought how to make people in the temporarily occupied territory to demonstrate their protest against the Rashist occupation. And we understood that if they just apply yellow anywhere, tie a yellow ribbon-it will reduce the time of such an action for them. And they will be safe. And it was from these principles that we chose the name of the yellow ribbon.
- How mass is such a resistance now? And where is it most active now? - The most active in Kherson, in Melitopol and Crimea. We work throughout the temporarily occupied territory of Ukraine. Our goal is to promote the liberation of all temporarily occupied territories - Lugansk, Donetsk, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Crimea. We will do everything to finally close this question. We are about 1000 [people] if you take all activists throughout the temporarily occupied territory.
We also worked in the Kharkiv region - Vovchansk, Kupyansk, Izium. There were our activists who glued postcards and yellow ribbons. Each of these initiative groups has coordinators, we work quite actively. It can be said that, for example, there are very positive things in Crimea. There is a high uplift of Ukrainian consciousness and pro -Ukrainian groups that are ready to work for the de -occupation of Crimea. - That is, they are waiting for the liberation of Crimea and try to get it closer now.
How exactly does information resistance help to release temporarily occupied territories in general? How does it prepare a bridgehead for our Armed Forces to come and release physically? - When a Russian soldier or a collaborator sees Ukrainian graffiti, Ukrainian postcards, hears Ukrainian - it is all an element of pressure on it.
When he opens a telegram when he opens an online edition, YouTube, and sees everywhere-a yellow ribbon, some other actions of the Ukrainian forces of resistance, he understands that he is not a place here. He understands that they are not long here that the Ukrainian resistance is intensifying. We do all this so that the occupiers can not feel safe, comfortable. And we definitely do not need to lower this pressure.
- They must constantly be in tension and should constantly look over the shoulder, and you provide such information campaigns so that this constant tension does not disappear? - For example, in May, postcards were distributed, where they were transferred to Russian patrols in Kherson and Melitopol to look around. They look back, even when they see a small box of Ukraine somewhere on the wall, a small graffiti.
Imagine a person who has to patrol the street every day and she sees that new graffiti appears on these streets. Even if they are smeared, she sees that new graffiti appears, new postcards. She understands that the resistance here only intensifies. She can't relax a day. And we have to work daily and not to slow down. - What are the most striking reactions from the invaders, collaborators you had to meet? Some hysterics, efforts to paint these inscriptions and flags, yellow ribbons.
How often do they react inadequately? - According to our data, they respond quite actively to us. They work in Kherson, in Melitopol, for example, groups that break our postcards, flags, graffiti. But they do not work unsuccessfully. [Former] a deputy Allegedly, we in Mariupol for 500 hryvnias bribe two women to knit yellow ribbons. that there are no cards in Kherson, there is no graffiti in Kherson, although our activists are glue these postcards with a binding address. new activists.
And there will be only more. Separately about Crimea. In Kerch, for example, they are already hunted - looking for who hangs tapes and postcards. In Simferopol, Yalta hunt us in Yalta. I think they will not find. - How you are checks Who is involved in the resistance movement? First, you need to make all these postcards, print, paste. How do you understand that a person can be trusted? - Faith is the main thing in our case. We need to look at the history of working with this person.
And I would not want to reveal all our secrets about human verification so that the Russians use them. They will definitely not bite us. We immediately find the so -called FSB majors who try to write to us. - And often it happens? What are you most often caught? - A person writes, immediately says that I am from Kherson, here is my passport data, I am a champion of Ukraine with sambo, see how I verify myself and I hate the Russians.
We immediately understand that this is a friend Major of the FSB, who wants to simply trust us. Although even if Comrade Major FSB will simply paste postcards and take pictures, he will simply do this work for us, we will not let it into our circles. Our team has a core that is closed. And if you can convey the FSB Majorians because of your broadcasting, then I will say that they did not work in six months.
- I want to ask about cooperation with our intelligence, with our military, law enforcement agencies. Do you coordinate, contact? - There are many different combinations of cooperation with the Defense Forces of Ukraine. I would not want to reveal all the details. Actually, we are simply a civic resistance movement, we do not have such access, for example, for the Defense Forces of Ukraine. What we can do, we do.
- What type of resistance during this time did you show yourself as the most effective? What is the strongest occupiers and their associates in the temporarily occupied territories? - During all the time of work, the most persistent way is postcards and graffiti. And the most effective thing that was most frightened - these were rallies. Melitopol, Kherson - twice we made rallies. They are really afraid of this. For them it is in a novelty. They did not see it in Russia.
And they try to bake it immediately. - Did any of the representatives of the yellow ribbon hit the hands of the invaders and their collaborators? If such people are, do you know their fate and the opportunity to get their release? - We did not have this. There were people we pulled out of captivity - ordinary civilians. There were people who participated in our rallies and were captured by the FSB, but they were released. So far, we manage to keep all our activists safe.
If someone hears us from the temporarily occupied territories of Ukraine: we will do everything to keep you safe. If you can and have motivation to work, help us, please enter the yellow ribbon. - And how easy it is to find information about you, get started, enter? What decisions to make, understanding all the potential danger? - A person has to understand what he risks and what he loses. This is everyone's business. Every owner of his fate.
If a person wants to enter a yellow ribbon, he can find a yellow ribbon, there will be Wikipedia at us right away and there will be a link to the telegrams. Or in a telegram can write "yellow ribbon" in the search engine and find us. Next, just write to the administrator of our channel, who wants to join the movement of a yellow ribbon. We are considering this person. - At the beginning of a full -scale invasion, there was a lot of doubts about the safety of the telegram itself as a messenger.
How did you decide that such a communication channel is appropriate? - The main thing is not to use your own name and surname in a nickname signature in a telegram, not to use personal photos. This channel is quite effective for us. There were no origins from our group. Therefore, this channel justifies itself as quite effective. We need a quick and effective information delivery channel. For us, telegrams are such a channel. - That is, the key rule that this communication should be impersonal.
After that, it is impossible to determine what a person is for a person? - So. - If a person gets into the occupation or for some reason should go to the temporarily occupied territory, what rules of conduct should be remembered? In addition, to clean up any personal data in the telegram. -I would advise you not to take my own smartphones, to check my information on Google, on different telegrams.