He issued himself. Christ Grozev described the conversation with the suspect in inhuman torture and the murder of the Ukrainian military
In an interview with NV, Grozev said that the conversation was very long, and his interlocutor did not immediately realize what he was talking to Bellingcat, although Grozev called Bellingcat journalist from the beginning. "At some point, he said the absurd phrase:" But I was questioned by the FSB. You cooperate with them. Ask them. " He may not have understood at all how the world media system works, ”said Bellingcat.
According to him, the suspect spoke contradictory things, some of which were true and the other was not. "Most likely, he was told that it was necessary to say so," Groziev suggested. The leader Bellingcat reported that his interlocutor acknowledged that he was a man with a cowboy hat in Russian propaganda videos, listing several of them. "I tried to stop him and said," Wait, and you were in a video where there was a white car? " He said, "I have been in all these videos that are shown.
" Then he began to deny, to say that he did not see a white car in his life, because it was key to attaching to a crime. He said Akhmat has never used a white car, and special forces in Ahmati use black armored vehicles. This contradicted him to the following words when he said he was never part of Ahmat.
How can he know what machines Akhmat uses if he is not a part of it? ” In addition, he stated that he was in Ukraine only to accompany the journalists of Russia Today, RIA Novosti and other Russian media, and "he was pushed into his hands, that he had never used a gun in his life before. " "We were able to find on his social networks closed now, a lot of photos on which he held the same sniper gun, with which he was seen on propaganda videos," said Bellingcat.
At the same time, according to Grozev, his interlocutor told the truth that he worked in the Ministry of Emergencies. Bellingcat manager also reported that the suspect of torture and murder, the Russian soldier said that after the appearance of video with violence in Russian Telegram channels, he was called propagandists from the Russian media with whom he cooperated and recommended him to contact the FSB and explain that it was not he.
“Apparently, they recognized him: not only we, not only software, but also his acquaintances, who spent much more time with him than we are with you. He claims that he went to the FSB and gave up. The FSB was kept: once he said - two days, the second - four. As a result, he said, they proved that this is a video fake; that this video shows a completely different situation in which Ukrainian servicemen punish the Ukrainian soldier, ”Grozev said.
According to him, when he asked the interlocutor, as a man was in his hat and with his car, he replied that such hats could be bought by any people. “If you believe his absurd version, first, the FSB suspected him for two or four days and then stopped suspect. According to his version, a very high -quality fake, in which millions need to be invested, is made to blame anyone known Russian from a republic, ”said Bellingcat.
Grozev also informed that, probably by accident, the suspect in the torture and murder of the Russian said that in the FSB he was told that the crime scene was in the village of Privilia, and this helped journalists narrow the search radius. “We started looking for a privilege. This helped us find a completely specific place where this crime was committed. We call it in our investigation - 90 meters from the sanatorium, which is visible in the frames of the murder itself.
If there was a percentage of doubt before talking to him, then after the conversation, I had an inner belief almost 100%, ” - summed up Bellingcat. On August 5, it became known that The Insider journalists, together with Bellingcat, identified the person of the Russian occupier who brutally tortured a Ukrainian prisoner of war on a video that spread on pro -Russian social networks. The investigation states that it is a native of Tuva Ouch-Sughe Mongush 1993 from Akhmat Battalion.