At the time of the interview, both have not yet been released from the Verkhovna Rada from their positions, but their temporary successors have already become known - both related to the deputy Yermak Oleg Tatarov. Therefore, experts and media have talked about enhancing the control of the OP over law enforcement agencies. And the name "Yermak" was on the first pages of the mass media. Zelensky's right hand is not used to such "popularity" - Ermak is regularly suspected of different "sins".
Only a few days before, the OP's head spoke a lot in the context of the statement of American Congresswoman Victoria Spartz. About all this and much more, it has talked to Yermak, who calls himself a "presidential manager. " - On July 17, the President removed the duties of the SBU Head Ivan Bakanov and removed the Prosecutor General Irina Venediktov.
Bakanov is eliminated in accordance with Article 47 of the disciplinary Statute of the Armed Forces - "improper performance of duties, which caused human casualties or other serious consequences. " What exactly is it? After all, this wording sounds like a serious prosecution, which can be followed by at least a criminal case . . . - First of all, it is the President's decision.
The purpose of this decision is to prevent the influence of the highest officials of the Attorney General and the SBU office on resonant cases that have taken place in recent days on collaborators and on traitors. Therefore, I would not make far -sighted conclusions today.
Recently, the President visited several areas, first of all, these are areas where, unfortunately, there were facts that SBU executives and prosecutors or remained in the occupied territories and began to cooperate with the occupiers, or somewhat strange way, when they needed It was to protect these areas. The president always said that he would deal with these cases, because we are in the war, the war continues. People first need justice.
Therefore, I would not like to comment on this presidential decision. I think that further steps will answer including the requests of the societies and the questions you have asked. - The president in his video message mentioned Kharkiv and Kherson.
Is it already clear what SBU employees were doing in the Kherson region? Did this make it easier for the occupiers to access Kherson and whether or not this has led to the fact that the city was quickly occupied? - These questions should be answered by the investigation. I can say so: really the president remembered not by chance both Kharkiv and Kherson. Indeed, there were events that cannot happen and should not happen. Therefore, these are also the reasons for the President's decision.
But let's wait for the corresponding conclusions of the investigation. We are exactly interested in more than anyone to get the answers, who how to behave, who was where on February 24, who was performing their duties. - Is it true that Bakanova was not on February 24 in Kiev? - I have no such information. I can say about myself. I appeared here at 5. 20 am, the second after the president and I stay here to this day. I was here from the first minute and I will stay until our victory on the spot.
Also, my whole family, including my parents, all these days stay in Kiev, even for a day they did not leave. My younger brother fought near Kiev and defended Kyiv. And those who criticize, in order to have a moral right, have to answer: where were they on February 24? - Those people who have now temporarily head the SBU and the Office of the Prosecutor General (OGP) have a good relationship with your deputy Oleg Tatar.
As the media was installed, Vasily Kid from the SBU, and Alexei Symonenko and OGP was walking on his last year's birthday. In this regard, it turns out that Tatarov now increases his impact on law enforcement agencies. That is, you are too. What can you answer these accusations? - The first thing I can answer: I did not walk at the birthday of Tatrov, so I can neither confirm nor refute whether they were there.
And when the President made a decision on their appointment, which is important - "temporarily acting", it did not accurately influence this decision. There is an appropriate procedure by which the president determined who he places these responsibilities. As for strengthening - these conspiracy theories I hear every day. I can say that I felt from the first day the presidential manager, so I feel. I have no other goals other than serving my country and working for the president. As for Mr.
Tatarov's influence: he did not offer me these candidates, and I did not, accordingly, the president. I do not feel that after these appointments somehow changed my status or my impact on these processes. I continue to work 24/7. My main directions, except those that were in peacetime: our army must receive all the necessary weapons. And today I see the results, including my work. This is the result of our many conversations. The next Thursday will take place with Mr.
Mark Millie [Chairman of the United States Chiefs of the United States Army Headquarters], Mr. Jake Sullivan [advisor to the US President for National Security] and Mr. Zaluzhny [Commander -in -Chief of the Armed Forces]. This time, our British colleagues will join in the same status. Including this work today we have HIMARS, we have MRLS [American reactive volley fire systems], I wake up and fall asleep with this word. Another direction is sanctions.
And also a new component of my work is security guarantees. - The first deputy Venediktova is Roman Govda, but for some reason appointed the temporary head of the Office of the Prosecutor General Symonenko, who hid a criminal case against Tatrov, who was investigating NABU, and did everything to be forgotten. That is why this person is associated with Tatar directly . . . - According to the law on the legal regime of martial law, the President himself determines who to appoint.
This is not necessary to rest on the first deputy. I said from the very beginning that the main purpose was to provide a completely transparent investigation into all these facts about collaborators, about possible traitors, etc. I think that this was the appointment in one case of the first deputy, otherwise - just the deputy. This corresponds to the current legislation and the law that was adopted. I urge to draw conclusions on the facts.
Much said a lot about my brother, but the man took the weapon and went to defend his country. And someone who spoke about him is to ask where he was at this time and what he was doing. That is, life always arranges dots. I have not learned the rules of modern politicians when you can do little, but speak a lot. I'm used to working, not talking. I understand that much of what I do today - people don't even know about it.
And we need to change this feature, but it is difficult for me, I am another person in character. But it is more important for me to achieve the result, especially when we have war. You remember my first public appearance was when I was the first exchange [September 7, 2019, 35 of the Kremlin's prisoners returned home, among them were military sailors and director Oleg Sentsov]. I was standing in the direction. - But now the situation has changed, you are no longer in the direction . . .
- And I have not changed. I remember well when we arrived. Many politicians still can't forgive me what we did then. And, by the way, it was from that moment that the first custom articles began against me . . . - Do you mean that you cannot forgive that the exchange has succeeded? - So. Some politicians could not forgive me. I remember very well how we flew, how many people were. Someone wanted to be in front of the cameras. And on the contrary, I wanted to go.
If the president did not ask and where Yermak and did not call, I would just get into the car and went. Because I'm another person and staying with her. And who knows me well and those who surround me know that I have not changed in three years. - But now you are in all the photos . . . - it was not my goal. - What new sanctions against the Russian Federation are your group now working with Michael Macfol, the former US Ambassador to Russia? - The sanctions began to be issued without us.
We have seen that many sanctions have very beautiful names but do not work. Many of them are absolutely ineffective. Today, with every new package, sanctions are becoming more painful, which are attached to the right point. We are now working first and foremost to recognize Russia with a terrorism. It is very important that this is accepted by the US Congress. The first lady Elena Zelenskaya will speak about it, who will perform in the US Congress.
We continue to press and cooperate with our colleagues. In order to continue providing timely military assistance to Ukraine, it is very important that the process is open. We started making phone calls when both Millie and Mr Sullivan are present. On my initiative, we have created a weekly briefing at the President's office that we invite representatives of the embassies, the Britain and the United States. My deputy Roman Mashovets is briefed. He listens to the military, tells what is happening.
There is inclusion from the front. In order that our partners do not have any questions and they are involved in what is happening. It is very important. - To know where and how their weapons are used? - Where is the weapon. Even when the last time in Ukraine was Sean Penn [American actor and film director], it was very important that he would go and show how Himars work and what our boys tell. For American society to see how it is used.
Because a lot of manipulations, Russian propaganda spends crazy money to say it is not. So, today we are concentrated: Russia is sponsor-terrorism and also on individual sanctions. The NAPC cooperates with us, they created the appropriate system, there are many thousands and Russian businessmen, which we today file for sanctions. - Recently, American Congressman Victoria Spartz has made you a long list of various claims and even sent a letter to the US President.
How did this scandal affect your communication with Western partners? How did they respond to it? - I have constant contact, it has not changed for many months - with Mr Sullivan. I talked to him last week, I will talk to him on Thursday. If we don't talk, we exchange text messages. I have the same active communication with my British partners and others. No changes. Moreover, I know that the so -called scandal in the United States did not have the so -called scandal.
He was more tried to spread here with us. Unfortunately today, the political interests of some of our politicians are forcing them to use it against me and our team. My initiatives, you can check, about transparency and control of the use of weapons, appeared long before it started. However, I think that people are smarter than any propaganda and therefore did not answer in any way. Although it is offensive, though it is not true, though it is an absolute lie.
-In August, Land League will be fully operational. What are our expectations? What can we get through Land League and can it affect the situation at the front? - Today our main goal is to win. Today we are considering only this goal. To do this, we need our military to have everything they need. They have their own character, they have their own professionalism. They all have sufficient weapons, except for sufficient equipment. The main task of Land League is that we get everything on time.
It is very important to us, not to enter the winter. After winter, when the Russians will have more time to dig up, it will certainly be more difficult. They pull us into it. It is very important for us not to give them this opportunity. - The president recently said in his video that he ordered the south to be ordered. How much is the chances of dealing with the south without entering the winter? - We have a great desire and we have an absolute understanding that we need to do it.
But this is a topic that people's lives stand. Therefore, there is a desire, there is an absolute understanding that it must be done - and on this point. Let's make better if it happens. Our goal is to de -occupation of all our territories. But this is a hard work. When an enemy who has many more weapons and people is against you. We must win, while keeping as many people as possible. Because the characters should be alive.
- Which of the countries is ready to be our safety guarantor? I remember when these conversations began, at first there was an idea that Russia was a guarantor of security. This is not discussed now. - We did not suggest them, Russia wanted to be. But it is impossible to be an aggressor and at the same time a safety guarantor. After Borodyanka, after Bucha, neither we nor our partners see the opportunity that Russia is among the countries that give us guarantees. As for guarantees.
When the war is over, we will remain with a declarative position in the Constitution that we go to NATO. We must have guarantees until we either find ourselves in NATO, we will not give up on it, or there will be some other defensive alliance with our international friends and partners. Therefore, we offered countries that we would like to give us these security guarantees on the way to NATO.
- Who is ready to give us such guarantees? - Today we are talking primarily with countries such as the USA, the United Kingdom, France, Germany, Italy, Poland, Turkey, Australia and many others. I'm not saying what they said: Yes, we're ready. We will not be interested in the Memorandum # 2. I think it will be such a design in which there will be a large agreement with many participants, and then additionally will be bilateral, more detailed contracts, with our partners.
Today, both the United Kingdom and Poland have been talking about such treaties, and in principle we are talking with the United States. In order to accelerate this, we have created a group with Anders FOG Rasmussen, who was a NATO Secretary General, which has already been joined by several experts. The main goal is to make recommendations from the inside. So that no one tells us that it does not correspond with NATO. There is a person who was a NATO Secret General.
We agreed that by the end of the summer there will be the first document we will use as recommendations. - It feels that in some European countries there is fatigue from war. For example, columns of German intellectuals in the Western press appear, in which they urge that Ukraine should talk to Russia, sit with it at the negotiation table. Do our partners bring us to that too? - Russia throws big money, especially in European countries.
We do not live in space, we understand that this happens every day and we need to resist it. We use everything from a presidential speech on Grammy [Musical Award], there are stars, there is Sean Penn. Because someone will hear in Congress, someone will hear at the concert, someone will hear on the square-this work non-stop is done. As for negotiations with the Russian Federation, today the only negotiations that are happening are negotiations to unlock our ports.
They occur at the level of our military and at the Ministry of Foreign Affairs, but only through the UN. I communicate with the UN Secretary General Guterres, I do not communicate with the Russians. I think we have some progress. But for us, security issues are number one. We [the Russians] do not believe them - it is clear. We have a very important work on the book of executioners. I want every soldier today who stepped on our land, his relatives, his children, his family were also on sanctions.
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