"The Russians are only interested in the Cadyrivs." Azov Eccamendor on attempts to establish information about captured Ukrainians - interviews

- This is a very difficult topic: what do we all have to do to destroy Russia's plans for humiliation and destruction of Mariupol defenders, what do they plan to do now? Or how to save foreigners who served in the Armed Forces and what occupiers are threatened with execution? How to release the 555th battalion from captivity? There can be no simple answers here, but that does not mean that you don't have to do anything.

There was a press conference of the Azov regiment fighters, what was the most important? Video of the day - the most important thing is that the guys turned and tried to concentrate that we are now all witnesses to the announced another crime react. And this will largely be the exam in particular for international organizations and for international sites, for world countries.

In this regard, we are really, the absolute truth is that we all have to do what we can, all resources, all the forces have to work today in order to prevent it. Because it is necessary to clearly realize that if this crime is forgiven or closed by their eyes, then the whole horror of the next crime will even be difficult to imagine.

- What do you know about the brothers who are now in captivity? Is there any information? - At this point, with part of the people in captivity, investigative actions are taking place, they are prepared for lawsuits. There is almost no connection, there is an understanding that most people continue to stay in the territory of the Olenivka colony, part is in the Donetsk detention center, as well as the command, the regiment commander and all his deputies are in the Russian Federation.

- That is, most fighters are in the same colony where our servicemen were killed. How do you estimate the level of threat that the occupiers can do the same thing in Olenivka? - I believe that Russia has shown us how inadequate it is at all, so that we have no doubt for a second. Russia has shown that it is capable of any crimes, any terrorist attacks. Moreover, she showed what would do them.

Therefore, unfortunately, while our Ukrainian heroes are under the control of the Russian Federation, it is extremely high because we are dealing with absolutely inadequate creatures. - You said that the Azov regiment command was taken to Moscow, there is also the commander of the regiment Prokopenko.

I do not even know if it is worth asking if there is some information about what they are and what is happening in Moscow, but maybe you have any information? - No, unfortunately, if from the territory of Olenivka we have at least some information through our channels, through our sources, we can at least fragments, but find information about the state of people, what is happening there; Although there are some passages, but we understand what is happening in Olenivka.

As for the regiment command, from the day they were taken to the territory of the Russian Federation, in Moscow, there is no information about their condition, location at all. Officially, Russia is completely ignored and does not respond, does not answer any appeals to their condition and location. They pretend that they do not exist at all.

I think the reason for this is that at first, they probably planned to do work on recruitment, but because we have not seen any videos, no statements all this time, it indicates that these plans have failed. Now they are most likely to prepare for public courts. - What do you know, they try to do this recruitment in Olenovka among other defenders of Mariupol from the Azov regiment? - Yes, of course, this is the favorite thing of the Russians.

They, looking at themselves, at the Russians, think that the whole other world is the same: that he will sell the mother for two pennies. They are always ready to cooperate with anyone. And in the case of the Russians it really is, the pathetic creatures for today, to this state they were brought by the Russian authorities and it suits them. But as for Ukrainians, they are completely different, so all these recruitment processes are extremely difficult.

And even the videos they teach with the desire of some propaganda influence look more harm to the Russians than Ukrainians. Because even in captivity, Ukrainian warriors always look decent, they are kept and can be seen that they do not break them. - Mariupol kept and the Russians needed to break this resistance. Perhaps you know something about any agreement on the conditions of this exit from the azovstal of Ukrainian servicemen? - There is almost no information about these arrangements.

It is clearly clear and known that there were some public statements that it is guaranteed that they will have everything they need, human rights will be observed. There was also a conversation that anyone who leaves azovstal would be exchanged and returned. But it all turned out to be completely empty. And the worst thing here is not that the Russians lied, it is also obvious always, to believe it is not a very noble thing.

The greater problem is that international organizations have been involved in this process that hold a fairly passive position today.

- What do you know about security guarantees from the International Red Cross and the UN? If not safety guarantees, at least about the participation of these organizations when the contingent is removed from Mariupol actually to Russian captivity? - The fact is that organizations such as the Red Cross publicly take on such responsibility that they will protect the rights, will follow the humanitarian situation that will be in the colony or other establishments where the Ukrainian military will be located.

But in real life it turned out that the Red Cross did not take any step at all to help, but at least to understand what is happening there. During all this time, the Red Cross was exclusively once, on the first day of leaving the territory of Azovstal, then the Red Cross was in the colony in Olenivka. They entered the prepared room they were shown, and the happy ones left.

During all this time, no control, no help, none of the participation in what is happening there, neither the Red Cross nor no other international organization. The issue of communication that the military was supposed to have, it is not at all, concerning medicines, food, water - with this also huge problems. I am not saying that boldly in the middle of Europe in a brilliant just killed dozens of people and now international organizations are asking, waiting for something.

It seems to me that if such a mass terrorist attack, murder, or even one person would be killed in the European country, would hardly be killed in the killer and asked: and whether you will be allowed to examine the body of the deceased and let you tell you How did everything really happen? No, this is a criminal, he needs to speak a completely different language. And Russia is the criminal with whom it is necessary to talk in a completely different tone.

- What do you know about the preparation of a mission by international organizations for the inspection of the premises where Ukrainian servicemen were killed? - Now all, including Ukraine, from Ukraine, and even individual organizations, and there are signals and appeals to international organizations, so that they have accelerated this process, yet they begin to do it.

But here it is important to understand that, for example, an examination of the crime scene is unlikely to give us something for the investigation, because the Russians, I am sure, have already removed everything that they should not be and brought everything they needed to see it. Therefore, even if Russia allows you to get there, it is unlikely that there are at least some traces of their crimes. But, however, it is still extremely important.

Moreover, it is extremely important to get, access to the survivors, so that they can communicate without pressure, without weapons, to find out how everything really happened there. And this will be extremely valuable and important information.

- Representatives of international organizations somehow contact with relatives and native fighters who are now in factual captivity, in order to organize at least some communication, to receive at least some information from their relatives? - The fact is that such communication exists today, but I will say that coordination centers or staffs are much more effective, they can be called, working with captives in Ukraine.

In which representatives of different services, law enforcement agencies are introduced, there is at least some information. International organizations communicate with their relatives, but mostly it is in the format that relatives find, ask something from them or demand, and provide generalized information that most likely your loved one is really in captivity.

Unfortunately, there is no more information in these organizations and this is due to the fact that they do not receive it solely because of their own low initiative in this matter. - Maybe you know something about the direction of the negotiation process, if it happens, about the exchange of prisoners? Form lists, one side transfers another, something like that is happening now? - Yes, in Ukraine this process is happening all the time, there are really people who are responsible for it.

Lists are formed, which are constantly transmitted to the Russians, lists of people we want to pick up. Likewise, the Russians convey the lists whom they want. But all this is extremely difficult and I will say that even now such processes are happening, but Russia simply inhibits this question in every possible way. I said earlier that, first, it is related to their life values, because they are not very interesting to return their soldiers or sergeants home.

They do not understand why to strain through such a resource as a regular soldier or a regular sergeant. If they say, they are mostly about returning such categories as pilots, senior officers or Cadyrivtsi. These categories are a little interest to these categories, and they are ready to talk about it, to approve lists.

But even in the presence of these categories, the process is still slow, it is constantly inhibited by representatives of the Russian Federation and at this time there is no exchange results. However, the Ukrainian side insists and continues to work, to reconcile the lists in order to be in some format, but still return home absolutely everyone. -At the same time, you have held a press conference and contact international organizations.

What are the sites in which political circles do you have? And maybe you already have some reviews from them? - It should be understood that in the first place we are focused and hope to support from those world countries that are already quite active in terms of Ukraine's support in the war against the Russian Federation. Of course, we should talk about Britain, the United States, I believe that they could have to join the process of returning or termination of crimes of the Russian Federation.

However, they like such organizations or not, but they exist, such as the Red Cross and the UN. And if they raised the flag with slogans and take responsibility to protect the rights of people, to help with the humanitarian environment, then we turn to them, we try to force them all possible methods to do so in order to get involved in this process and are more active in this process Ukraine support plan.

We say so, support Ukraine, but it is really the support of the usual standards of modern civilization and nothing more. - Do you think our partners can apply some additional sanctions to help in the process of liberation of our prisoners? - I am absolutely sure that there are quite a few tools that have not been included and which can and should be included. They lie in different planes, both diplomatic and economic.